Abortion ban in ohio

I think ( as the opinion in the article states) that If politicians really care about reducing the need for abortion, they should work to pass common sense measures that increase access to birth control and medically accurate education. Just my opinion..... thoughts?

Preposterous.

There's always one person in every state legislature trying to do this...its not going to happen.

fuck ohio........ but really how hard is it to get on birth controll pills. they are cheaper than abortions. i dont think people should be denied abortions when they are not ready to be parents shit i already see too many of them in daily life. im a firm believer that one little mistake should not effect the remainder of a persons life when something can be done about it.

when you grow a uterus you can have a say.
until then your opinion should mean nothing.

This post has been edited by sec on Jun 14 2006, 05:50 PM

i was kidding.
what i really meant to say is until you are The Big Man upstairs, you shouldnt be able to decide when life begins.
there, better?

I agree... It's really a damn shame too. Teach the kids how to be safe. Don't tell them just not to do it, because when they do-- They will be ill prepared. Common sense is not so common anymore

Passing a law banning abortions right now will do nothing other than get the Supreme Court to issue yet another opinion upholding and strengthening Roe v. Wade (and Casey v. Planned Parenthood). There are not enough votes to overturn those cases.

i just support a womens right to take money from me to get an abortion when i happen to be too drunk to remember to wrap it

Are you talking about my old boss?... His office was upstairs & he went about 3bills.

That mistake is a human life man. That's all I'm going to say for now, it's been a long day.

I've decided that I lean conservative on this issue for several reasons. After debating it endlessly, I just can't argue with the fact that it's a child- it's more than just the life of the woman. You shouldn't have free access to kill your child just because you want to. The law is so inconsistant- it doesn't make sense that it's legal to abort your baby, yet you go to prison forever if you shake your newborn and it dies. What is the timeframe in which the distiction should be made that it's not ok to kill them anymore?

I also think the father should have some say here. Yes, it's the woman's body, but it's the man's kid too. What if I want to raise the baby? The woman is allowed to kill my child just because SHE doesn't want to be a mother? Getting pregnant IS a risk both people take by having sex. When both the man and the woman take that risk, why is the guy totally at the mercy of the woman's decision for the rest of his life? If you want ultimate control over your body and absolute say as to whether you keep the child or not, shouldn't paying for the child be on the woman if she decides to keep it? After all, it was her choice- even if she knew the father didn't want to be a parent. What if a woman wants to get pregnant and the man doesn't want a kid- so she tells him she's sterile and he doesn't need to use a condom, when in reality she's just trying to trick him into getting her pregnant. Why should the man have to pay for that baby?

If abortion is to be legal, it certainly should be decided on in the legislature- not the court. This isn't a constitutional issue. The only reason the left doesn't want it decided in congress is that the law is on their side now, so they don't want to take the chance of it changing. My problem with the right is that the same people arguing the loudest against abortion are the same people who aren't willing to support funding for any programs to help poor children and families- they seem to only care about children until they're born. Current laws really don't make sense regarding injury to a fetus- if legally it isn't a child until birth, why are laws in place that if you injure a pregnant woman and it kills the fetus, you go to prison for a long time? You can't have it both ways- it's either a dead baby or not.

screw abortions.
give em all
the pill
and let's
screw the women

I'll give you credit on that one, but I'm still wrapping my tool. (Too much to lose, like my life.)

I'm just talkin bout preventin the need for abortions, not dissin condoms

im down with that but when your girl forgets to take her pill then tells you oh shit i..... your hair starts to turn gray....... she dont even gotta finish her sentence and im about to have a heart attack......... thank god im not with that one anymore and glad she never got knocked up cuz i cant have little ibbangins runnin around setting shit on fire hacking up furniture with machettes lighting fireworks inside the house........... ok so i did alot of crazy shit as a kid and im not done doing crazy shit as an adult either

wrong. whats the argument here? the main argument is: when does life begin? how should THAT question be decided by any part of the government at all? who are WE to say when a life begins? were you there on the 7th day, when God decided to rest after creating life? was anyone in our government? so why is it even an option, for them to make that judgment?
its the same as someone saying, "since i have the means to do something, its morally alright that i do so."





also i want you to take note of the fact that you called it a baby.
that insinuates a human life.
taking a human life, purposely... is murder... always.

I look at it like this.........if you're going to have sex, you probably know the risks involved. Therefore, you should be responsible enough to use some form of birth control whether it be the patch, pills, condoms, either party getting something snipped.......whatever. If a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want the child, she should offer custody to the father or look into an adoption plan. Now.......things happen. Condoms break. Women forget to take their pills or lie about being sterile, having a hysterectomy, or lie about taking the pills. However, you should have to take responsibility for your actions when it involves impregnation. I hear a lot of women say, "It's my body and I'll make my own choices." Well, yes, it is your body. But if you're pregnant, it isn't JUST your body anymore. There is another human growing in your womb. It doesn't matter to me when life begins. The fact is, there is a fetus inside you as a result of your actions, however regretful you may be of them, and you should have to at minimum give birth to it. I think that the ONLY circumstances under which an abortion should be performed is if the woman's life is in danger. "I don't want to be a mother right now," shouldn't be a valid reason for killing a fetus. It's murder no matter how you look at it. Think about it.........if you were pregnant and wanted to keep the child and someone stabbed you in the stomach, what would you say? Would you say, "Oh well, it wasn't alive, it was just a fetus,"? Or would you say, "Oh my God! You killed my baby,"? Again, this is about taking responsibility for your actions, not having an abortion merely because you made a mistake or don't want to be a mother yet. Don't want to be a mother? Either abstain from sex (yeah right) or use some damn protection. If you kill someone in a vehicle accident, you have to take responsibility for that, don't you? Just like getting pregnant, you didn't mean for it to happen, but it did and you have to be held responsible. They're called pills and condoms people!

That's true- but if you take that approach, who are we as man to make any laws or decisions about anything? We live in a society of laws that are decided by humans. I'm not sure where you're going with this- I think my post pretty much agreed with yours. As for your point, unless you think Americans are Constitutionally guarenteed the right to an abortion, it should be decided in the legislature, not by a Supreme Court decision.

Again- not sure what you're trying to say. Did you read my post or just automatically assume that I would take the liberal position on this? Or was I just not clear enough? I agree with you.

plagiarism!

I try to stay out of the political forums, really i do...i just can't help it sometimes...

edit: sorry. my speal was really long, but i read it and decided i'm too tired to try and make any sense right now.
i'll try again tomorrow?

This post has been edited by ProcrastinaQueen on Jun 15 2006, 02:09 AM