Abortion ban in ohio

So abortion's cool when you can't deal with the stress of a pregnancy long enough to give the child up for adoption?






Thanks, dude. You just killed me.

Talk to you later.

That's cool, you're entitled to your opinion. My point is, just don't force your opinion onto others, which is what pro-lifers wanna do. Give people the option, not like everyone's gonna go around killin babies for the hell of it.

cannibaldan?

This post has been edited by ibbangin on Jun 16 2006, 09:47 PM

Your whole theory undermines the idea of a Democracy by saying people shouldn't try and persuade people to their opinion.

he said killing, not eating

wouldnt eating it kill it anyway?

kill two birds with one stone, then... they get their abortion, cannibaldan gets his dinner... everyone's happy

he may have a new biznass opp there........

Please stop attributing things to me that make absolutely no goddamn sense.

Sincerely,

The US Constitution

PS - No, really, it's me this time I swear.

Ok, I agree that the mother has a right to decide but so does the father. If God exists and he made us the way he did then guess what? It take one woman and one man to make a child. If Mommy dearest decides to abort and the daddy dearest does too then it equal out but if daddy wants to abort or keep it he doesn't get the same right as mommy does. They currently have an on going case on paternal rights to a child and it also covers child support. Before "our" government decides on if it is alright to have abortions, shouldn't we first know what rights we have to a child? I am neither for or against abortion since none of us would be here if our parents did it, however if said daddy can't support it and neither can mommy. then why bring the child into the world to have a ghetto fabulous life?

The child does not have a choice at the moment it's in the womb and frankly when I was a child I couldn't do shiat without having the parents' permission or I would get the shiat knocked out of me. So are we going to argue that the child has rights when most children don't have rights when they are young? Granted we now have way too many laws dealing with children protection, i.e. can't play somewhere without mommy or daddy watching - meaning no more playing doctor with your grade school friend at such an early age, have to wait until... hell high school nowadays for some privacy.

Maybe I just bitter about some things like this because I have best friends and personal experiences with this but you don't hear people like me getting up there in politics so the current politicans and let the new age that deals with these issues into the government and let the people that this affects have a damn say. Basically : "Mom, Dad, get the f^^k out of the way and let us live our own damn lives."

Uhhh...because they don't have to, duh.

There are laws in place that make it REDICULOUSLY easy for parents who can't deal with or afford to raise a child to give it up.


ps: did you say earlier in that post that parents should have a right to kill their kids because kids don't have a right to do anything without their parent's permission anyways?

I'm afraid for our future.

This post has been edited by ProcrastinaQueen on Jun 17 2006, 01:03 PM

There are some laws in different states to make it easier however, when one parent wants it and the other doesn't then what happens? Someone pays, or if the father wants it and the mother doesn't the father doens't get the choice. I think if women want everything equal then the laws should do just that. Personal issue, sorry for the rant.

As for kids rights, I never said killing kids were right because they don't have rights in the first place. I meant they didn't have the choice to begin with. Mommy and daddy have that choice. Would you really bring a child into this world if you couldn't provide for it to the point of poverty?

im not for abortion - but adoption is the best thing if you know you cant raise a kid - a friend's sister had a little boy two years ago, yeah she 'watches' him and stuff, but he hates being around her, her mom (his grandma) watches him all day and takes care of him. and now im starting to help out with him too... today he pushed away from her and ran to me, kinda awkward, but she doesn't really care... kinda sad..

what's more sad is that she's pregnant again.... she doesn't belive in birth control in any form, pills, condoms or anything, she just 'free-balls' it....

catholic?

nope... bipolar...

she thinks taking pills will mess up her head, and she won't trust condoms i guess, but i have no clue really....

maybe she'll just do us all a favor and commit suicide

maybe she just might..... but her kid is cute as hell!! i love the little guy, she's messed up in the head tho - she's flipping quarters to figure out who the father is of this one.....

im still going with catholic

sounds like a classy lady

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great....

When a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

Let the heathens spill theirs on the dusty ground, but God will make them pay for each sperm that can't be found.

Religion has no place in federal/municipal law. We must allow for free will & free choice.

Thou shall not kill is a commandment, and it is against the law as well. There can be overlap from one to another. Also, many people derive their opinion, based on their faith. Saying that one cannot use their faith as a guide toward creating law is the same as saying one that does not believe in god has no place in government.

I draw the line at practicality. Thou shall not kill makes sense, we probably would have that as a law regardless of it being a commandment. But there are many other biblical laws that would have no place in the US law. Using the bible as a soul source of why something should be a law has no place in our country. But since I am pretty sure there is no mention of abortion in the bible, and many non-religious people have a problem with abortion, I can respect (most of them at least) the pro-life movement.

And I'm done with this thread.

The topic at hand, however, has nothing to do with religion.

It has to do with whether an unborn child is actually a child or not and whether parents make the choice to kill, raise, or give up said child.

What's wrong with selling the kid?