War with Iran...
When's it going to happen?
http://english.people.com.cn/200703/12/eng...312_356565.html
An Iranian official on Sunday lashed out at the Hollywood movie "300" for insulting the Persian civilization, local Fars News Agency reported.
Javad Shamqadri, an art advisor to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, accused the new movie of being "part of a comprehensive U.S. psychological war aimed at Iranian culture", said the report.
What this idiot doesn't realize is that the majority of Americans don't realize that Iranians are actually Persians, and not Arabs, so most of us are not able to make the same generalization that this Art advisor thinks, especially since most of the Persians in the movie were black.
An Iranian official on Sunday lashed out at the Hollywood movie "300" for insulting the Persian civilization, local Fars News Agency reported.
Javad Shamqadri, an art advisor to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, accused the new movie of being "part of a comprehensive U.S. psychological war aimed at Iranian culture", said the report.
What this idiot doesn't realize is that the majority of Americans don't realize that Iranians are actually Persians, and not Arabs, so most of us are not able to make the same generalization that this Art advisor thinks, especially since most of the Persians in the movie were black.
now I REALLY have to see 300... ![drinkup[1].gif](http://www.collegeslackers.com/forum/html/emoticons/drinkup[1].gif)
QUOTE (hett @ Mar 13 2007, 08:18 AM)
http://english.people.com.cn/200703/12/eng...312_356565.html
An Iranian official on Sunday lashed out at the Hollywood movie "300" for insulting the Persian civilization, local Fars News Agency reported.
Javad Shamqadri, an art advisor to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, accused the new movie of being "part of a comprehensive U.S. psychological war aimed at Iranian culture", said the report.
What this idiot doesn't realize is that the majority of Americans don't realize that Iranians are actually Persians, and not Arabs, so most of us are not able to make the same generalization that this Art advisor thinks, especially since most of the Persians in the movie were black.
An Iranian official on Sunday lashed out at the Hollywood movie "300" for insulting the Persian civilization, local Fars News Agency reported.
Javad Shamqadri, an art advisor to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, accused the new movie of being "part of a comprehensive U.S. psychological war aimed at Iranian culture", said the report.
What this idiot doesn't realize is that the majority of Americans don't realize that Iranians are actually Persians, and not Arabs, so most of us are not able to make the same generalization that this Art advisor thinks, especially since most of the Persians in the movie were black.
this proves that they have no idea about our culture....I guess I have given them too much credit for thinking they were wise to how our media and country works...
as Hett pointed out....I would say that most people in our country:
A) Have no idea that Iran is Persia.
2) Probably have no idea who / where Iran is.
C) Have no idea that the US is potentially on the doorstep of a major conflict with said Iranian Persians.
This also shows how they could never deal with any kind of freedom of speech / expression. I'm sure they are going to now have some kind of conference to bash Greeks and discredit all of their achievements, and showcase their faults.
got this in my email.....
Subject: German Editorial on Appeasement
HERE IS A GERMAN EDITORIAL
If any of you still feel that this war on terror is a mistake, here is an
opinion from an unexpected source. It's fascinating that this should come
out of Europe. Mathias Dapfner, Chief Executive of the huge German
publisher Axel Springer AG, has written a blistering attack in DIE WELT,
Germany's largest daily paper, against the timid reaction of Europe in the
face of the Islamic threat.
This is a must-read by all Americans. History may well certify its
correctness.
EUROPE - THY NAME IS COWARDICE
(Commentary by Mathias Dapfner CEO, Axel Springer, AG)
A few days ago Henry Broder wrote in Welt am Sonntag, "Europe - your family
name is appeasement." It's a phrase you can't get out of your head because
it's so terribly true.
Appeasement cost millions of Jews and non-Jews their lives, as England and
France, allies at the time, negotiated and hesitated too long before they
noticed that Hitler had to be fought, not bound to toothless agreements.
Appeasement legitimized and stabilized Communism in the Soviet Union, then
East Germany, then all the rest of Eastern Europe, where for decades,
inhuman suppressive, murderous governments were glorified as the
ideologically correct alternative to all other possibilities.
Appeasement crippled Europe when genocide ran rampant in Kosovo, and even
though we had absolute proof of ongoing mass-murder, we Europeans debated
and debated and debated, and were still debating when finally the Americans
had to come from halfway around the world, into Europe yet again, and do
our work for us.
Rather than protecting democracy in the Middle East, European Appeasement,
camouflaged behind the fuzzy word "equidistance," now countenances suicide
bombings in Israel by fundamentalist Palestinians.
Appeasement generates a mentality that allows Europe to ignore nearly
500,000 victims of Saddam's torture and murder machinery and, motivated by
the self-righteousness of the peace movement, has the gall to issue bad
grades to George Bush... Even as it is uncovered that the loudest critics
of the American action in Iraq made illicit billions, no, TENS of billions,
in the corrupt U.N. Oil-for-Food program.
And now we are faced with a particularly grotesque form of appeasement. How
is Germany reacting to the escalating violence by Islamic Fundamentalists
in Holland and elsewhere? By suggesting that we really should have a
"Muslim Holiday" in Germany?
I wish I were joking, but I am not. A substantial fraction of our (German)
Government, and if the polls are to be believed, the German people,
actually believe that creating an Official State "Muslim Holiday" will
somehow spare us from the wrath of the fanatical Islamists. One cannot help
but recall Britain's Neville Chamberlain waving the laughable treaty signed
by Adolph Hitler and declaring European "Peace in our time".
What else has to happen before the European public and its political
leadership get it? There is a sort of crusade underway, an especially
perfidious crusade consisting of systematic attacks by fanatic Muslims,
focused on civilians, directed against our free, open Western societies,
and intent upon Western Civilization's utter destruction.
It is a conflict that will most likely last longer than any of the great
military conflicts of the last century - a conflict conducted by an enemy
that cannot be tamed by "tolerance" and "accommodation" but is actually
spurred on by such gestures, which have proven to be, and will always be
taken by the Islamists for signs of weakness. Only two recent American
Presidents had the courage needed for Anti-appeasement: Reagan and Bush.
His American critics may quibble over the details, but we Europeans know
the truth. We saw it first hand: Ronald Reagan ended the Cold War, freeing
half of the German people from nearly 50 years of terror and virtual
slavery. And Bush, supported only by the Social Democrat Blair, acting on
moral conviction, recognized the danger in the Islamic War against
Democracy. His place in history will have to be evaluated after a number of
years have passed.
In the meantime, Europe sits back with charismatic self-confidence in the
multicultural corner, instead of defending liberal society's values and
being an attractive center of power on the same playing field as the true
great powers, America and China.
On the contrary - we Europeans present ourselves, in contrast to those
"arrogant Americans", as the World Champions of "tolerance", which even
(Germany's Interior Minister) Otto Schily justifiably criticizes. Why?
Because we're so moral? I fear it's more because we're so materialistic, so
devoid of a moral compass.
For his policies, Bush risks the fall of the dollar, huge amounts of
additional national debt, and a massive and persistent burden on the
American economy - because unlike almost all of Europe, Bush realizes what
is at stake - literally everything.
While we criticize the "capitalistic robber barons" of America because they
seem too sure of their priorities, we timidly defend our Social Welfare
systems. Stay out of it! It could get expensive! We'd rather discuss
reducing our 35-hour workweek or our dental coverage, or our 4 weeks of
paid vacation... Or listen to TV pastors preach about the need to "reach
out to terrorists. To understand and forgive".
These days, Europe reminds me of an old woman who, with shaking hands,
frantically hides her last pieces of jewelry when she notices a robber
breaking into a neighbor's house.
Appeasement?
Europe, thy name is Cowardice.
Subject: German Editorial on Appeasement
HERE IS A GERMAN EDITORIAL
If any of you still feel that this war on terror is a mistake, here is an
opinion from an unexpected source. It's fascinating that this should come
out of Europe. Mathias Dapfner, Chief Executive of the huge German
publisher Axel Springer AG, has written a blistering attack in DIE WELT,
Germany's largest daily paper, against the timid reaction of Europe in the
face of the Islamic threat.
This is a must-read by all Americans. History may well certify its
correctness.
EUROPE - THY NAME IS COWARDICE
(Commentary by Mathias Dapfner CEO, Axel Springer, AG)
A few days ago Henry Broder wrote in Welt am Sonntag, "Europe - your family
name is appeasement." It's a phrase you can't get out of your head because
it's so terribly true.
Appeasement cost millions of Jews and non-Jews their lives, as England and
France, allies at the time, negotiated and hesitated too long before they
noticed that Hitler had to be fought, not bound to toothless agreements.
Appeasement legitimized and stabilized Communism in the Soviet Union, then
East Germany, then all the rest of Eastern Europe, where for decades,
inhuman suppressive, murderous governments were glorified as the
ideologically correct alternative to all other possibilities.
Appeasement crippled Europe when genocide ran rampant in Kosovo, and even
though we had absolute proof of ongoing mass-murder, we Europeans debated
and debated and debated, and were still debating when finally the Americans
had to come from halfway around the world, into Europe yet again, and do
our work for us.
Rather than protecting democracy in the Middle East, European Appeasement,
camouflaged behind the fuzzy word "equidistance," now countenances suicide
bombings in Israel by fundamentalist Palestinians.
Appeasement generates a mentality that allows Europe to ignore nearly
500,000 victims of Saddam's torture and murder machinery and, motivated by
the self-righteousness of the peace movement, has the gall to issue bad
grades to George Bush... Even as it is uncovered that the loudest critics
of the American action in Iraq made illicit billions, no, TENS of billions,
in the corrupt U.N. Oil-for-Food program.
And now we are faced with a particularly grotesque form of appeasement. How
is Germany reacting to the escalating violence by Islamic Fundamentalists
in Holland and elsewhere? By suggesting that we really should have a
"Muslim Holiday" in Germany?
I wish I were joking, but I am not. A substantial fraction of our (German)
Government, and if the polls are to be believed, the German people,
actually believe that creating an Official State "Muslim Holiday" will
somehow spare us from the wrath of the fanatical Islamists. One cannot help
but recall Britain's Neville Chamberlain waving the laughable treaty signed
by Adolph Hitler and declaring European "Peace in our time".
What else has to happen before the European public and its political
leadership get it? There is a sort of crusade underway, an especially
perfidious crusade consisting of systematic attacks by fanatic Muslims,
focused on civilians, directed against our free, open Western societies,
and intent upon Western Civilization's utter destruction.
It is a conflict that will most likely last longer than any of the great
military conflicts of the last century - a conflict conducted by an enemy
that cannot be tamed by "tolerance" and "accommodation" but is actually
spurred on by such gestures, which have proven to be, and will always be
taken by the Islamists for signs of weakness. Only two recent American
Presidents had the courage needed for Anti-appeasement: Reagan and Bush.
His American critics may quibble over the details, but we Europeans know
the truth. We saw it first hand: Ronald Reagan ended the Cold War, freeing
half of the German people from nearly 50 years of terror and virtual
slavery. And Bush, supported only by the Social Democrat Blair, acting on
moral conviction, recognized the danger in the Islamic War against
Democracy. His place in history will have to be evaluated after a number of
years have passed.
In the meantime, Europe sits back with charismatic self-confidence in the
multicultural corner, instead of defending liberal society's values and
being an attractive center of power on the same playing field as the true
great powers, America and China.
On the contrary - we Europeans present ourselves, in contrast to those
"arrogant Americans", as the World Champions of "tolerance", which even
(Germany's Interior Minister) Otto Schily justifiably criticizes. Why?
Because we're so moral? I fear it's more because we're so materialistic, so
devoid of a moral compass.
For his policies, Bush risks the fall of the dollar, huge amounts of
additional national debt, and a massive and persistent burden on the
American economy - because unlike almost all of Europe, Bush realizes what
is at stake - literally everything.
While we criticize the "capitalistic robber barons" of America because they
seem too sure of their priorities, we timidly defend our Social Welfare
systems. Stay out of it! It could get expensive! We'd rather discuss
reducing our 35-hour workweek or our dental coverage, or our 4 weeks of
paid vacation... Or listen to TV pastors preach about the need to "reach
out to terrorists. To understand and forgive".
These days, Europe reminds me of an old woman who, with shaking hands,
frantically hides her last pieces of jewelry when she notices a robber
breaking into a neighbor's house.
Appeasement?
Europe, thy name is Cowardice.
I used to do drugs. I still do, I just used to, too.
Posts: 4287 Joined: 14-February 05 College: Cincinnati
Tomorrow
QUOTE (SW645 @ Mar 15 2007, 07:38 AM)
Tomorrow
as in, you'll reply tomorrow?
I used to do drugs. I still do, I just used to, too.
Posts: 4287 Joined: 14-February 05 College: CincinnatiQUOTE (Yankee @ Mar 15 2007, 09:33 AM)
as in, you'll reply tomorrow?
The title to the thread was "war with iran...when's it going to happen?"
I was merely answering the question. I'm not too sure of it, but that's what the majic 8 ball says.
great article
QUOTE (SW645 @ Mar 15 2007, 09:10 AM)
The title to the thread was "war with iran...when's it going to happen?"
I was merely answering the question. I'm not too sure of it, but that's what the majic 8 ball says.
I was merely answering the question. I'm not too sure of it, but that's what the majic 8 ball says.
lol....well I hope it doesn't happen that fast....or at all
QUOTE (Yankee @ Mar 15 2007, 07:59 AM)
got this in my email.....
Finally, a Euro with some balls.
it's on....
Britain: Iran seizes 15 sailors, marines
Britain: Iran seizes 15 sailors, marines
This post has been edited by Yankee on Mar 23 2007, 09:30 AM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle1563877.ece
I wonder how the Brits are going to respond?
I wonder how the Brits are going to respond?
QUOTE (hett @ Mar 24 2007, 07:44 PM)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle1563877.ece
I wonder how the Brits are going to respond?
I wonder how the Brits are going to respond?
With bombs and guns, I hope.
QUOTE (hett @ Mar 24 2007, 06:44 PM)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle1563877.ece
I wonder how the Brits are going to respond?
I wonder how the Brits are going to respond?
probably with sanctions and resolutions and plea's....
They've given us a reason. Let's do it.
Crusades... fuck yeah!!!
QUOTE (Don_Arturo @ Mar 28 2007, 06:27 PM)
Crusades... fuck yeah!!!
Crusade > Jihad.
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Meh, wake me up when it's a quagmire.
QUOTE (TylerDurden @ Mar 28 2007, 08:25 PM)
Meh, wake me up when it's a quagmire.
official or unofficial?
Only when it's official, of course. 
I've been trying to read some British forums and see what they think about this situation. I'm almost in shock that it seems at least half or more think this is some kind of plan by Bush and Blair to attack Iran, and that Iran is doing the right thing in this situation.
1) Great German newspaper article.
2) What else does Iran have to do to get the shit bombed out of them? So far, they've publicly wished the annihilation of Israel, shipped bomb-making materials into Iraq, and captured British sailors and marines. Never mind the refusal to have their nuclear program monitored.
Tactical airstrike on the Iranian President's palace. Hell, make it nuclear. Every now and then you have to slap somebody around a little bit to remind them who's boss.
2) What else does Iran have to do to get the shit bombed out of them? So far, they've publicly wished the annihilation of Israel, shipped bomb-making materials into Iraq, and captured British sailors and marines. Never mind the refusal to have their nuclear program monitored.
Tactical airstrike on the Iranian President's palace. Hell, make it nuclear. Every now and then you have to slap somebody around a little bit to remind them who's boss.