What do you think?
The War on Drugs.
well ur the topic starter...perhaps you should have started this discussion off with ur opinion
just wanted to be an asshole
just wanted to be an asshole
This post has been edited by jtt619 on Mar 27 2005, 11:04 PM
I this its all BS! Really you think they would really let us know WTF is really going on its all Media BS just to keep you busy with there story they make up and really I dont care cause it dont effect me!
Well, I'm not 100% sure of my opinion. I'm a convicted felon as the result of drugs so I'm obviously going to have a biased view. I think most drugs should be legal because a person should have the right to do whatever they want to themselves. But at the same time, I think drugs like heroin are rightfully illegal.
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I'm a convicted felon as the result of drugs so I'm obviously going to have a biased view
That clears up so many things now.
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I think most drugs should be legal because a person should have the right to do whatever they want to themselves.
Its that way of thinking that is ruining the country. Sure, we will let those people ruin there lifes. Then, when they can't work anymore cause they can't hold a job, or pass a drug test, who is gonna take care of them? Thats right, Uncle Sam and the American taxpayer will pay for that drug addicts healthcare, food and living expenses.
That would depend on if they had ever been convicted of drug related crimes. I am not eligible for any govt assistance ever. Which I think is kind of dumb because now I can't get financial aid anymore either. You would think the govt would try to help someone who is trying to turn their life around.
QUOTE (Mickey_thacker @ Mar 28 2005, 12:19 AM)
You would think the govt would try to help someone who is trying to turn their life around.
Well thats part of ur punishment.
I guess so, but if I killed someone I could still get financial aid. I guess the whole thing is just illogical to me.
yeah, it's the governments fault you have a drug related conviction on your record....all their fault... 
those p.s.a's about drugs ruining your life arent bullshit
those p.s.a's about drugs ruining your life arent bullshit
No, I never said I blamed the government.
QUOTE (Mickey_thacker @ Mar 28 2005, 12:35 AM)
I guess so, but if I killed someone I could still get financial aid. I guess the whole thing is just illogical to me.
Well, if you killed somebody you would probably be in jail the rest of your life or dead, so aid really won't help.
Thats not necessarily true. I know a man who was convicted of manslaughter as the result of drunk driving and he only got 2 years probation. He is eligible for financial aid but I am not.
But anyway, this is getting away from the topic. What are your views of our drug policy?
But anyway, this is getting away from the topic. What are your views of our drug policy?
QUOTE (Mickey_thacker @ Mar 28 2005, 12:49 AM)
But anyway, this is getting away from the topic. What are your views of our drug policy?
Its not strong enough
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I'm going with Mickey on this one. The average sentance for killing someone is 7 years, and you are still eligible for financial aid when you get out. Not so with drugs. I think that's a Bush policy. It's bullshit. There are a whole lot of legal things that fuck up your life- alcohol, cigarettes, etc. I don't need the government to protect me from myself. A lot of drugs should be illegal, but there are a few that shouldn't.
QUOTE (Mickey_thacker @ Mar 28 2005, 12:49 AM)
Thats not necessarily true. I know a man who was convicted of manslaughter as the result of drunk driving and he only got 2 years probation. He is eligible for financial aid but I am not.
thats because his was alcohol related and alcohol is legal in this country unlike whatever drug u were using.
As much as I'd love to pin that on Bush, that policy has been around for awhile. I wanna say since Reagan, but that may be wrong.
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thats because his was alcohol related and alcohol is legal in this country unlike whatever drug u were using.
I think the point is that he killed someone.
QUOTE (jtt619 @ Mar 27 2005, 11:54 PM)
thats because his was alcohol related and alcohol is legal in this country unlike whatever drug u were using.
Dude. Come on now. Drugs are worse than killing someone? The crime wasn't so much the DUI as it was the killing of another human being.
QUOTE (Mickey_thacker @ Mar 28 2005, 12:57 AM)
Dude. Come on now. Drugs are worse than killing someone? The crime wasn't so much the DUI as it was the killing of another human being.
I didn't say it was worse. I was simply talking about drugs vs. alcohol. Plus I'm sure he had a pretty good lawyer if he got off that lightly.
This post has been edited by jtt619 on Mar 28 2005, 12:00 AM
QUOTE (jakubow2 @ Mar 28 2005, 12:54 AM)
Not so with drugs. I think that's a Bush policy. It's bullshit.
Damn, I never knew that Bush was president in 1965
Currently, the Solomon-Souder amendment to the HEA Act of 1965 blocks ex-drug offenders from receiving federal student aid.
http://www.justicepolicy.org/article.php?id=496
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Logically, if pot is illegal, alcohol should be too- even more so.
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Damn, I never knew that Bush was president in 1965
Currently, the Solomon-Souder amendment to the HEA Act of 1965 blocks ex-drug offenders from receiving federal student aid.
http://www.justicepolicy.org/article.php?id=496
Currently, the Solomon-Souder amendment to the HEA Act of 1965 blocks ex-drug offenders from receiving federal student aid.
http://www.justicepolicy.org/article.php?id=496
I saw a show and they were talking about him and this policy. Maybe it was challenged and he upheald it or something. I don't remember, but there was a connection somewhere.
QUOTE (jtt619 @ Mar 27 2005, 11:59 PM)
I didn't say it was worse. I was simply talking about drugs vs. alcohol. Plus I'm sure he had a pretty good lawyer if he got off that lightly.
But the discussion was not drugs vs alcohol. It was drugs vs. killing someone. And he had a public defender.
This post has been edited by Mickey_thacker on Mar 28 2005, 12:03 AM
QUOTE (Mickey_thacker @ Mar 28 2005, 01:01 AM)
But the discussion was not drugs vs alcohol. It was drugs vs. killing someone. And he had a public defender.
No fucking shit! You're the one who decided to bring up the alcohol and killing someone so I was responding to it.
And...He must've been a hell of a public defender.
Well, the killing someone part was pertinent to the conversation. The drinking wasn't.