10 Reasons Why Gay Marriage Is Wrong

Posted: Oct 17 2005, 02:55 PM
Heh. Good point. Why do they want to punish themselves with marriage anyway?
Posted: Oct 17 2005, 04:03 PM
QUOTE (jake @ Oct 17 2005, 04:44 PM)
Tell me a single way that gay marriage would affect you or anyone else if it were allowed.

That's not a reasonable argument.
Posted: Oct 17 2005, 04:42 PM
QUOTE (TylerDurden @ Oct 17 2005, 06:03 PM)
That's not a reasonable argument.

Why?
Posted: Oct 17 2005, 05:14 PM
I never said it will personally effect me, the reason why I am against it has more to do with my religious beliefs, which being an ordinary citizen I have the right to do.

I still have not had an explanation of how this is discrimination though, which is the argument they are using to why it should be allowed. You see as I have said in several other threads, they do not have any more or any less rights than everyone else. You see I can not marry a man, and my wife can not marry a woman, and that goes for every other woman and man in this country. If they can provide genetic proof that they can not control being gay, well than thats a different story, which would actually validate your interacial comparison, than they are actually different, at this point it is just a descion they make, and until it is proven otherwise, than I will look at it that way.

Why do people prefer vanilla over chocolate? It is all in their head. Same way with a guy being gay, or a girl being a lesbian. It is all personal choices they made of what they like better.
Posted: Oct 17 2005, 05:22 PM
QUOTE (jake @ Oct 17 2005, 06:42 PM)
Why?

So just because something doesn't affect you directly, it should be allowed?
Posted: Oct 17 2005, 06:57 PM
QUOTE (AAisforwimps @ Oct 17 2005, 06:14 PM)
If they can provide genetic proof that they can not control being gay, well than thats a different story, which would actually validate your interacial comparison

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Researchers say it's the first time the entire human genetic makeup has been scanned in search of possible genetic determinants of male sexual orientation. The results suggest that several genetic regions may influence homosexuality.

"It builds on previous studies that have consistently found evidence of genetic influence on sexual orientation, but our study is the first to look at exactly where those genes are located," says researcher Brian Mustanski, PhD, a psychologist at the University of Illinois at Chicago.


http://my.webmd.com/content/article/100/105486.htm

now kindly shut the fuck up homophobe
Posted: Oct 17 2005, 06:58 PM
QUOTE (TylerDurden @ Oct 17 2005, 06:22 PM)
So just because something doesn't affect you directly, it should be allowed?

I believe the point is that it affects no hetereosexual couple. That is why it should be allowed
Posted: Oct 17 2005, 08:24 PM
QUOTE (AAisforwimps @ Oct 17 2005, 05:14 PM)
I never said it will personally effect me, the reason why I am against it has more to do with my religious beliefs, which being an ordinary citizen I have the right to do.

I still have not had an explanation of how this is discrimination though, which is the argument they are using to why it should be allowed. You see as I have said in several other threads, they do not have any more or any less rights than everyone else. You see I can not marry a man, and my wife can not marry a woman, and that goes for every other woman and man in this country. If they can provide genetic proof that they can not control being gay, well than thats a different story, which would actually validate your interacial comparison, than they are actually different, at this point it is just a descion they make, and until it is proven otherwise, than I will look at it that way.

Why do people prefer vanilla over chocolate? It is all in their head. Same way with a guy being gay, or a girl being a lesbian. It is all personal choices they made of what they like better.

This is about law, not religion. Yours isn't the only religion in this country.
Posted: Oct 18 2005, 07:15 AM
QUOTE (AAisforwimps @ Oct 17 2005, 05:14 PM)
Why do people prefer vanilla over chocolate? It is all in their head. Same way with a guy being gay, or a girl being a lesbian. It is all personal choices they made of what they like better.


Please tell me that you don't really believe that.
Posted: Oct 18 2005, 08:12 AM
the only problem i see is people with kids would no want
something like this seen on an everyday basis. Im sure alot of parents dont want to give their kids the impression that its cool or your a rebel if your gay
Posted: Oct 18 2005, 08:21 AM
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Posted: Oct 18 2005, 01:11 PM
QUOTE (AAisforwimps @ Oct 17 2005, 07:14 PM)
I never said it will personally effect me, the reason why I am against it has more to do with my religious beliefs, which being an ordinary citizen I have the right to do.

I still have not had an explanation of how this is discrimination though, which is the argument they are using to why it should be allowed. You see as I have said in several other threads, they do not have any more or any less rights than everyone else. You see I can not marry a man, and my wife can not marry a woman, and that goes for every other woman and man in this country. If they can provide genetic proof that they can not control being gay, well than thats a different story, which would actually validate your interacial comparison, than they are actually different, at this point it is just a descion they make, and until it is proven otherwise, than I will look at it that way.

Why do people prefer vanilla over chocolate? It is all in their head. Same way with a guy being gay, or a girl being a lesbian. It is all personal choices they made of what they like better.

First of all, no one is going to force churches to perform these marriages, so it really isn't a religious issue. Are you so concerned about the sanctity of a concept with a more than 50% failure rate? How is it not discrimination? How is this any different than the law preventing interracial marriages? As for the "proof" of it being genetic- if you believe it's a choice, you should ask yourself if you could then just "choose" to be gay. Also, why would someone "choose" this lifestyle?
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So just because something doesn't affect you directly, it should be allowed?

For the most part, yes. Now, you worded that so that you have an easy response if I said yes- what I'm saying is that activities that have no impact on anyone but those involved should be allowed. Nothing negative could come to anyone else from this. For the same reason, there should be no seatbelt laws, and pot should be legal. On the other side, Meth should not be legal, because there is a huge risk of death for not only the user, but for other people too.
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the only problem i see is people with kids would no want
something like this seen on an everyday basis. Im sure alot of parents dont want to give their kids the impression that its cool or your a rebel if your gay

But keeping your kids from this does nothing but shelter them from reality, and makes them homophobic. Not to mention that it's completely unrealistic. You aren't going to "turn" your kids gay by having them be around gay people. Do people really still believe that's possible? If people want to be homophobic, racist, etc, that's fine- it's your right. The problem is when that discrimination is legally sanctioned.
Posted: Oct 19 2005, 05:55 AM
QUOTE (jake @ Oct 18 2005, 11:11 AM)
If people want to be homophobic, racist, etc, that's fine- it's your right. The problem is when that discrimination is legally sanctioned.

Exactly. Don't hide behind your religious beliefs as a justification for the fact that two men kissing each other grosses you out. It grosses me out too --- the first time I saw a gay friend of mine kiss his boyfriend in college a couple years ago, it was still really fucking weird to be around. The difference between me and you is that I am mature enough to realize that they are human beings too, that it is completely natural for them, and that it shouldn't be a bigger deal than a guy and a girl kissing --- so I got over it.

Gay people deserve the rights that we accord to everyone else. If you don't see that, you are blind to your own bigotry. You are no different than a racist in the 1960s, arguing against integration --- they had some laws on their side, they had some kooky religious BS on their side, but in the end, what they didn't have was real morals... the kind that tell you "All men are created equal, and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights."
Posted: Oct 19 2005, 08:15 AM
QUOTE (Nate @ Oct 15 2005, 04:19 AM)
7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

I disagree with the sarcasm in this one to an extent. Of course having gay parents doesn't automatically mean that their children will be gay, but some studies have shown that sexual orientation among children is positively correlated with the sexual orientation of their parents. I just read a study recently that concluded that somewhere around 60% of children with same-sex parents considered same-sex relationships. In contrast, only around 15% of children with heterosexual parents considered same-sex relationships. It didn't say whether the children actually acted on their impulses though. Like I said, parental orientation is not automatic when determining the orientation of the kids, but it does appear to be related in some way.
Posted: Oct 19 2005, 10:19 AM
Just let them alone, they aren't hurting anyone. tongue.gif
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Posted: Oct 19 2005, 01:10 PM
QUOTE (NoMoreSchool @ Oct 19 2005, 11:19 AM)
Just let them alone, they aren't hurting anyone. tongue.gif

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Posted: Oct 23 2005, 06:15 PM
QUOTE (JackBurton @ Oct 19 2005, 06:15 AM)
I disagree with the sarcasm in this one to an extent. Of course having gay parents doesn't automatically mean that their children will be gay, but some studies have shown that sexual orientation among children is positively correlated with the sexual orientation of their parents. I just read a study recently that concluded that somewhere around 60% of children with same-sex parents considered same-sex relationships. In contrast, only around 15% of children with heterosexual parents considered same-sex relationships. It didn't say whether the children actually acted on their impulses though. Like I said, parental orientation is not automatic when determining the orientation of the kids, but it does appear to be related in some way.

The key word there is "considered". More children with gay parents considered the possibility of same-sex relationships because they weren't raised in an environment that taught them that it was wrong, immoral, etc. Whereas less children with straight parents considered that possibility for the opposite reasons. And, as you noted, the study only shows that children of gay parents are more open and tolerant, not more likely to become gay themselves.
Posted: Oct 25 2005, 11:18 AM
QUOTE (JackBurton @ Oct 19 2005, 09:15 AM)
I disagree with the sarcasm in this one to an extent. Of course having gay parents doesn't automatically mean that their children will be gay, but some studies have shown that sexual orientation among children is positively correlated with the sexual orientation of their parents. I just read a study recently that concluded that somewhere around 60% of children with same-sex parents considered same-sex relationships. In contrast, only around 15% of children with heterosexual parents considered same-sex relationships. It didn't say whether the children actually acted on their impulses though. Like I said, parental orientation is not automatic when determining the orientation of the kids, but it does appear to be related in some way.

oh no! not MORE gays! they're gonna take over!

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Posted: Oct 25 2005, 01:04 PM
QUOTE (NoMoreSchool @ Oct 19 2005, 10:19 AM)
Just let them alone, they aren't hurting anyone. tongue.gif

HAHA that's an awesome picture. I don't really care if gay people get married or not. They are less violent than anyone else it seems. I don't know how I feel about homosexuality these days though. It almost seems like it's a fashion trend to be and act gay. Yes there are definitely people who are really gay, but then there are others (especially high school teens it seems) that think being gay is "cool". That's just stupid, but i guess none of the fake gays are fighting for gay rights. I'm not one to say that there aren't people that are legitimately gay, but I will also argue that it's not a "normal" way of life. Normal meaning that all creatures on earth are meant to procreate (except asexual ones) and homosexuality goes against that. But if people want to be gay go for it, i've never really complained when i've seen two good looking girls making out.
Posted: Oct 25 2005, 09:42 PM
i'm all for gay marriage, as long as its a gay man marrying a gay woman.

no other combinations allowed
Posted: Oct 25 2005, 10:09 PM
QUOTE (andrew_grizzly @ Oct 25 2005, 10:42 PM)
i'm all for gay marriage, as long as its a gay man marrying a gay woman.

no other combinations allowed

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Posted: Oct 25 2005, 10:10 PM
i am all for black gay dood marriage. those guys is CrAaAAAaaZzZzzyy!!!!!!
Posted: Oct 26 2005, 12:23 AM
QUOTE (ferris @ Oct 25 2005, 10:09 PM)
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you must be gay then
Posted: Oct 26 2005, 12:25 AM
And you must be a tool.
Posted: Oct 26 2005, 12:50 AM
QUOTE (Animus @ Oct 26 2005, 12:25 AM)
And you must be a tool.

Animus & Ferris you are both idiots


being GAY is not normal, as soon as people realise homosexuality is a mental disease the better off everyone will be.

even if it costs millions of dollars in health care it is better to put them in mental institutions than letting them roam the streets and preying on people.


you know it makes sense

This post has been edited by andrew_grizzly on Oct 26 2005, 12:56 AM